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Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

I've always liked the clean lines and speedy-look of the Hawker Nimrod.  When it was introduced in 1933 it was competitive or better than many carrier fighters, especially Fairey Flycatcher from 1922,...

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  out-turn an A6M in actual mock combat trials.'Those enormous flaps were one reason the 2000hp Griffon in the Firefly got it all of (wait for it) 320 or so mph. Good trade off?

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jlyons97 wrote:  out-turn an A6M in actual mock combat trials.'Those enormous flaps were one reason the 2000hp Griffon in the Firefly got it all of (wait for it) 320 or so mph. Good trade off? The...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

bgile wrote:Larrikin22 wrote:They were diving to 5,000'. Any lower than that and they weren't going to get out of the flak. The coverage at Cherbourg made anything that went to sea look like...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

Try as you might, you cannot put a pretty face on a two seat fighter up against real opposition in the real world. Portal didn't believe it about the -110. You shouldn't either. The Firefly I had more...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

jlyons97 wrote:Try as you might, you cannot put a pretty face on a two seat fighter up against real opposition in the real world. Portal didn't believe it about the -110. You shouldn't either. The...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

I thought this thread was about biplane fighters? Please carry on with this Fulmar conversation in either a new thread or one of the many previous threads on the Fulmar/Firefly on this board.

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

bager1968 wrote:I thought this thread was about biplane fighters? </blockquote>good point. It's 1933 and HMS Furious joins in war-game exercises with the French carrier Bearn. Furious' Hawker...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

If it's 1933, then France doesn't have any D.376s... the D.376 was developed from the D.371... which first flew in Feb. 1934. The navalized-but-non-folding D.373s were delivered to the Navy in...

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Badger, thanks for that link. It's amazing how little info there is on the web on Bearn's aircraft. When it entered service in 1930, the Wibault Wib.74 definitely had the advantage in speed and power...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

Admiral Beez wrote:Who've thought that in 1930 the French had the best carrier fighter in the world?!The French built a lot of very, very good military equipment.  Look at D&S, at their tanks...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

True.  In addition to performance, some of the French weaponry was truly innovative.  When it entered service in the late 1930s, the Dewoitine 376 was the first monoplane carrier fighter with fully...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

Which possibly says "If you're going to lead the world in naval aviation lead in doctrine or ships, not in aircraft".

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

ChrisPat wrote:Which possibly says "If you're going to lead the world in naval aviation lead in doctrine or ships, not in aircraft".Doctrine and ships are horses for courses.  The French weren't...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

So why have the "best" carrier fighter in the world? The comparison was with other fighters. If France is looking for carrier a/c to fight Germany or Italy then, as you say, fighter vs land fighter...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

ChrisPat wrote:So why have the "best" carrier fighter in the world? It was the best because in 1930 it was the newest.  Everyone else was flying carrier fighters from the mid-1920s.  The RN's carrier...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

Admiral Beez wrote:France still had a massive global empire, second only to that of Britain, and thus Bearn could be expected to take part of combat outside of Europe, such as with Italy in Africa....

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

ChrisPat wrote:Projecting power over the enemy's land possessions, high performance fighter.  Anti submarine with two Vickers?  WW2 escort carriers used Wildcats for A/S but I doubt that would be...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

ChrisPat wrote:Admiral Beez wrote:France still had a massive global empire, second only to that of Britain, and thus Bearn could be expected to take part of combat outside of Europe, such as with...

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Re: Your favourite carrier bi-plane fighter, and why?

Andy01 wrote:jlyons97 wrote:  out-turn an A6M in actual mock combat trials.'Those enormous flaps were one reason the 2000hp Griffon in the Firefly got it all of (wait for it) 320 or so mph. Good trade...

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